Getting Married In tunisia

Jenna

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RE: Getting Married In tunisia

The certificate of impediment is proving the hardest part. I understand it has to be displayed for 21days at the registry office here does it also have to be displayed there?. does anyone know whether i can get that done now? I am going back to tunisia end of Aug/beginning of september before the wedding in october and was hoping to take take all the documents including the certificate of impediment to the embassy along with my fiance and his documents?Am ion the right lines of success or am i totally wrong?? please help i'm getting a headache. Many many thanks x
 

pej

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I don't know how these things work in the UK; but I think a lot of excellent information has been provided in this forum earlier. In Sweden the document doesn't have to be displayed at all, but it still might take 3 weeks to get it. It's hard to plan anything without really knowing how long the whole process might take! Especially since it's abroad- it's not like you can just go pick it up if there's a form missing, and paying for another trip (and maybe another round of forms if the other ones goet too old)isn't cheap either - plus you don't really want to postpone anything once you've set your mind to it, right? Well, I'll soon (hopefully) find out - I handed in the form for the document of no impediment today.:)
 

Kris

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That is the problem you see when you have time sensitive forms waiting for timesensitive forms lol

The UK is very efficient and god bless the lovely ladies at Norwich registry office who are super efficient it takes about a week to get a birth certificate but they got it done sooner and even called me so I could go get it the evening I drove down to Gatwick for the contract the following week. I needed this as the Bizerte Town hall said they needed a 15 day old birth certificate.

With me and Hajer we basically had the contract the moment we had all the papers and delayed the wedding till later as it is very stressful as you also pay out for the certificates and translation and then also to have the blood tests.

It would also help if the post was better.
 

Jenna

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Thank you for that although i still cant get my head round it.
Do i need to get another birth certificate or just my original translated???
Glad to hear the registry office your end is helpful and efficient the one my end is useless.
XX
 

pej

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As far as blood tests are corncerned I seem to remember that you, Kris, and Hajer had them done just a few days before the wedding. Is this a test where you get the results straight away, so at least thinking of when to book that won't be such a worry? As far as birth certificates go here in Sweden you get them in a couple of days, but in this case of course translation and approval by various deparmtents add quite a bit to that...
 

Kris

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Best thing is to get the certificate of no impediment ordered (21days notice in the uk)
then a week before you go to Tunisia for your contract you need to get the birth certificate (a new one) and then get this translated.

Believe me it is a stress as you have to have this all done and then translated within 15 days. Once you have this all in french then you need to see your embassy as they (like the UK) may need to give you a permission certificate after seeing your domestic certificate.
 

pej

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I was under the impression that 15 days was a special requirement where you got married, not for all of Tunisia. there is simply no way I can get this done, because the Tunisian Embassy demands that I get a certificate, then have it translated - the translator says it takes about 10 days and it' s not done in my town - then it must go as I mentioned before, to the Department of Foreign Affairs and then the embassy. Surely people from Sweden managed to marry Tunisians before; after all 5000 Tunisians live here and 300 Swedes live in Tunisia... I'll make my fiancée check. I don't think he really gets it; he actually thought we could just go to a Swedish consualate and pick up whatever was needed and then get married straight away... Not so easy when foreigners are involved! Anyway, I think there is no way I can get my documents earlier than in six weeks, at the very best! [&:]


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Kris

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Thats what annoyed me a lot at the time as I got all my paper ready less than a month onld and was told this when I was 1 week from coming hence the last minute rush.

The good news is that it is different and for most of Tunisia is is "of recent issue" which can be anything up to three months but please do check with your municipality.

In Bizerte to be fair to them it was on the rules and not just becuase they didn't like bald Englishmen taking their girls away. Also find the doctor as the doctor will have to give you a note to take to another facility where the test are perfomed again also ask how long this will take as this was very quick for me.

I sent my documents to a certified translator in Bizerte round the corner and 15 dinars a page it got sorted within 24 hours.

I literally got the birth certifcate done two days before the contract.

It maybe worth finding a certified Swedish tranlator in Tunisia near where you want to be married.

OH and I almost forgot I have started to compile some of the information from this popluar thread onto the main website under the Tunisian family life page in the culture section.

I will also do an FAQ page so please post specific questions here and i will add them on ASAP.
 

pej

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Well, that's a bit of a Catch 22 for me, since the embassy in Sweden demands that they approve everything first, which means I have to get all documents translated in Sweden... Getting the no impediment can take 3 weeks, and maybe translations and approval take another three... I'm hoping that will be enough. I'm trying to get my fiancée to find out, as I mentioned before. It's annoying having to spend so much time worrying about these things! [:'(]
 

pej

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Hello there, me again. My mother is getting worried about me getting married in Tunisia, especially since she "heard from someone" that a girl got married in Tunisia and when she signed the contract she was forced to give everything she owned to him. My mother proceeded to call the Department of Foreign Affairs in Sweden, where the lady in charge of Tunisianaffairssaid to always be suspicious and have the contract reviewed bya lawyer, and to "alwyas be aware of what the Koran says about women and about marriage". None of you writing in this forum who are already married appear to feel tricked into anything, as far as I can tell? And how can he get "everything" if I have no property there and we're not even going to live there... am I supposed to empty out my wallet? According to the U.S. Department of Foreign Affairs report on religious freedom in Tunisia, a Christian wife can not inherit a Moslem husband, and the other way around. OK, but there wouldn't really be anything to inherit if only one person owns everything, right? So: those of you already married, do you recognize this? Did you have great freedom in "composing" your own contracts, or is it basically a standard form? Can anyone give me a rough idea of what a contract generally contains?
 

candikisses

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and people think its a pain gettin married here!!
i hope it all works out for u!!!

x
 

Kris

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I you are worried you should consult a Tunisian lawyer to give you advice.

The Marriage under Tunisian law is more European than you would think with Tunisia being a former french colony and Islamically speaking it is not based purely with Sharia law (pure old school islamic law)and for example as Moslem I am allowed more wives thus extending my nagging time to 24 hours a day, and this is illegal in Tunisia (since independance I might add).

There is also a specific clause where you can keep your assets seperate however Hajer always insists that she is going to divorce me in the UK as she saw on TV that such agreements are not worth the paper they are written on and that you get future earnings also.

To be brutal if you get rid of him you are going to return home and it is very unlikely that he will get much sympathy or money from a European court as during divorces they tend to ur on the side of the ladies if indeed he has the fund to start a court case in your home country.

AS I do not know your situation it is difficult and indeed I am not qualified to give you legal advice. When I was in the same situation I thought this that I am either going to throw myself into marriage and share everything or that I am simply not going to be married and the fact that Hajer can take me to the cleaners keeps me on my toes lol.

If he is rich then divorce him in the uk show him [link=http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5013262.stm]this to scare him off[/link]

From [link=http://www.tunisiaonline.com/women/index.html]http://www.tunisiaonline.com/women/index.html[/link]


The principle of equality of men and women with respect to citizenship and before the courts is expressly stipulated in Tunisian legal texts.
As early as 1956, the Code of Personal Status established a new organization of the family based on equality of rights, through a series of provisions that included:
the abolition of polygamy;
the establishment of judicial divorce proceedings, granting both spouses the right to request divorce;
setting the minimum age for marriage at 17 for girls, and providing that they must consent to the marriage;
in the case of death of the child's father, granting the mother the right of custody of their minor children.

The new amendments announced by the President of the Republic on August 13, 1992 have, meanwhile, strengthened the place of women still further, confirming the principle according to which their rights are inseparable from those of men, eliminating legal provisions that could be interpreted as discriminatory and sexist. These amendments, adopted by the Chamber of Deputies in July 1993, stipulate in particular:
that the two spouses "must treat each other with kindness and consideration, and assist each other in the management of the household and the affairs of their children." This provision replaces the former clause providing that "the woman must obey her husband";
that a mother's consent must be obtained for the marriage of a daughter who is a minor;
that mothers may participate in the management of their children's affairs, particularly in the case of a divorced mother who has custody of her children;
that married girls who are still legal minors have the right to manage their own private life and affairs;
that a fund be created to guarantee payment of child support and alimony to divorced women and their children.

Created by virtue of law 93-65 pf 5 July 1993, the fund for alimony and divorce annuity guarantee, ensures the payment of pension and annuity decided by the court, which remain unpaid to divorced women and their children because of the obstinacy of the condemned party.
that judges receive training in the field of women's rights, and that specialists be trained in personal status and in sociological and psychological matters;
that the provisions referring to child support and alimony be recast in such a way as to ensure payment of child support for the couple's children until they reach their majority or finish their schooling; i
 

pej

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Thank you Kris, as always a prompt and detailed response! What would I/we do without you! Some of what you wrote I recognise from other sites, I think even tunisie.com, and for those who speak French i can recommend monmaghreb.com which focuses on women. It details marriage traditions in the Maghreb countries (Tunisia, Algeria, Morocco, Libya and Mauretania) and also mentions the rights of women. I found the passage you wrote on treating each other with equal consideration there as well. There are also interviews with maghreb women, on such things as family planning. Quite interesting, although I read it with an online French dicionary at hand...

By the way, Swedish authorities have decided to work quickly - I filed for the document of no impediment last Thursday, July 13, and was told it could take three weeks - but I got it today! I really hope it won't get too old before the contract... the translations/official stamps etc. alone are going to cost me about 90 Euro!

Well the trip is booked and I'll se if I can calm my mother down a bit, it would of course feel a lot better if I could do this with support from my family.



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Kris

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I think I remembered to reference the sites from which I got the information from.

If your really stressed then have the contract in your home country once you have seen each other a few times you should have him over for a holiday to your own country (if you have not already done so) then once he goes back home you should be able to apply for a fiancee visa and the embassy will be able to see that you have been together for a while and he has come to visit and not run away.

Me and Hajer where married in Tunisia becuase my family are small and hers massive (we still had to have a two part wedding with another bit in September) but if there was issues in excess of what we had getting married here would not have been a problem given the right visas.

As for rights of women so much depends on the person you are marrying in reality you could marry the nicest man from Saudi and have a happy life and a git from your own country and have a horrible repressed time. If you have any doubt in you mind don't do it take your time and think things through true love waits and endures.

You do hear horror stories (not saying it will be you or have any resemblance to your relationship) and also see a lot of Tunisian romeos. I am lucky in way as its not socially acceptable for a Tunisian girl to marry a man from the UK to most families in Tunisia and I met my wife in the UK so the fact she had to take a lot of flak + doesn't need the money + has a great life in Tunisia rassured me that I found somone I can trust.

If I was a girl I think I would be even more worried (sorry to sound sexist) and thus really really careful at every stage as Hajer was when she decided to Marry me.

But legally speaking its not much of a concern however I think child custody is a diffrerent kettle of fish.
 

pej

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Having him over for a holiday would be wonderful, but the application fee - whether you get it or not - is100 euro, and Sweden is not very keen on getting Tunisians (and many, many other nationalities ) here, apparently. It involves a lot of paperwork and might take a year - my friends' friend tried for a year to get her boyfriend here, but the authorities refused. When he comes here ( I must think when and not if) we are going to have a ceremony for my friends and family as well; my church only cares that eihter one of us is a member so that's ok. And of course you're right about the rest as well - who knows if you're going to stay in love for ever or if people are going to treat each other well? It's impossible to know, really, and sooner or later you will have to decide whether to go for it, or whether to stay safe and maybe miss something wonderful. And by the way, all relationships require work.

Getting your spouse here might take a year as well, my friend waited for 13 months before his Phillipine fiancée, whose sister already lived her, was allowed a temporary permit. That is, they have to show Immigration for two years that they actually live together as husband and wife, and then she'll get a permanent permit. They have their second child under way in September, so by now they should have proved it! ;)
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Kris

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I have started a section on the main site on this topic and as new information comes up I will update it.

[link=http://www.tunisia.com/Tunisia/Culture/Tunisian%20Family%20Life/Marriage]http://www.tunisia.com/Tunisia/Culture/Tunisian%20Family%20Life/Marriage[/link]

Much of the information is from this thread.

Regards,

Kris
 

candikisses

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hi jenna
hope u get it sorted so where di u meet ur husband 2 be?
 

Jenna

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Hey,
I met my husband 2 be in Monastir! Things seem to be going smoothly at mo and went to sort the certificate of no impediment today!! How are you?
 

candikisses

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im good thank you!
glad ur getting everythin sorted its interesting seein what u have to do
to get married to someone from tunisia u dont think it would b so difficult
x
 

Jenna

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Its a very long annd difficult process especially when i'm here and his in tunisia! Where are you from? x
 
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