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kerry30

Active Member
#1
Hi all, getting close to putting hubby's visa app in now and im getting a bit nervous. I want to do anything i can to avoid getting a no and just wondered if you all could let me know any reasons why you might have had a no in the past so i can use this experience. Also hubbys family are giving him some money to get him started over her, not much maybe £1500 or somthing but im thinking he should get this money now and get it on the bank so he can show statements in visa app?
 

MellieC

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#2
you cna't go on what others have been refused or granted on in that way ~ to use that system you need to start the app that way

there can be a million and one REASONS why an app is refused, but the reason/s must fall into one of the 5 sections of paragraph 281 that you MUST satisfy to have the visa granted.

the usual Grounds for refusal are maintenance, accommodation or susbsisting relationship. and so many things can be in any of those 3 categories.

so just try and make sure that you have covered all 5 points, but pay particular attention to accommodation maintenance and genuine and subsiting relationship ~

if his parents are giving him money yes it would be good to have it in an account to show the embassy but also with a letter (notarised) from his family (father?) that the money was given by them, and that it is for HIS use with you to help start his life in the UK

good luck with the app
 

kerry30

Active Member
#3
Thanks mellie, where can i see these 5 sections?
 

MellieC

Well-Known Member
#4
281. The requirements to be met by a person seeking leave to enter the United Kingdom with a view to settlement as the spouse or civil partner of a person present and settled in the United Kingdom or who is on the same occasion being admitted for settlement are that:
(i) (a)(i) the applicant is married to or the civil partner of a person present and settled in the United Kingdom or who is on the same occasion being admitted for settlement; and

__ __(ii) the applicant provides an original English language test certificate in speaking and listening from an English language test provider approved by the Secretary of State for these purposes, which clearly shows the applicant's name and the qualification obtained (which must meet or exceed level A1 of the Common European Framework of Reference)

(ii) the parties to the marriage or civil partnership have met; and

(iii) each of the parties intends to live permanently with the other as his or her spouse or civil partner and the marriage or civil partnership is subsisting; and

(iv) there will be adequate accommodation for the parties and any dependants without recourse to public funds in accommodation which they own or occupy exclusively; and

(v) the parties will be able to maintain themselves and any dependants adequately without recourse to public funds;

when you complete the application form and supply documents it is the above 5 points that you are attempting to prove to the ECO's satisfaction.

so look through the app and your docs and make a check list, what does each doc PROVE? which one of the 5 points above? with the english test, only the english test proves it, but for the other 4 points several documents will prove it? if it proves it include it?

for example an employment contract proves you are employed?
payslips prove you are receiving a wage?
your bank statements prove you do get that money?
your P60 proves you got that money all through the last tax year?

(one confirms the other, which cannot be disputed?)

some people will have gotten the visa without providing ALL of the above, if you don't have all of the above, if its the employment contract and P60 its not the end of the world, if its the bank statements and payslips then think carefully about submitting the app?

but if you have the all submit them all, leave no room for question?

apply that principle to the 4 points, as the english test is a single docuement issue, and you are giving yourself the best chance?

 

kerry30

Active Member
#5
Thanks again mel, i have all of the above and more. The only thin g i am worried about is the english test, my hubby took the KET last week and they say he can get hos results on line on the 27th or april with a pass word they have supplied him with but dose he need a hard copy of the results? he said they didnt say anything about getting a certificate.
 

MellieC

Well-Known Member
#6
print off the internet copy and submit that or you can wait for the actual certificate, with the internet copy the Embassy is also issued with details of passes, and they match up the internet copy to theirs.

just try and remember that NOTHING is OBVIOUS to the ECO, so make sure that they understand whatever from the app to the documents supplied, treat them as martians, they know nothing and you are teaching them the 5 points from what you put on the app to what docs you submit to prove and confirm what the app says so that you meet the 5 requrements.
 

kerry30

Active Member
#7
Thanks mellie you have been a great help, i think we wlill have to just go with the print out from the internet as he wont get that till 27th and we want to submit around the 30th so im guessing he wont have his cert by then. x
 

Jennifer_1987

Active Member
#8
think we will be submitting around the same time Kerry, when do you fly out?
 

kerry30

Active Member
#9
think we will be submitting around the same time Kerry, when do you fly out?
Hi Jennifer, I fly out on the 25th hoping to get an appointment at the embassy on the 30th, I'v hired an immigration specialist to help me with everything and he will be doing the online application for me and sorting the embassy appointment out for me. When are you submitting?
 

xtonicx

Active Member
#10
print off the internet copy and submit that or you can wait for the actual certificate, with the internet copy the Embassy is also issued with details of passes, and they match up the internet copy to theirs.

just try and remember that NOTHING is OBVIOUS to the ECO, so make sure that they understand whatever from the app to the documents supplied, treat them as martians, they know nothing and you are teaching them the 5 points from what you put on the app to what docs you submit to prove and confirm what the app says so that you meet the 5 requrements.
My hubby took his test in February and gets his results online on the 4th April. The British Council told him when he took his test that they no longer send the results to the Embassy, you have to take them yourself. He emailed the Embassy to check and they confirmed, they also told him you need the certificate to apply for the visa. They wont accept the printed confirmation from the internet.
 

Jane BM

Well-Known Member
#11
Sounds similar to my experience.....first thing they asked my husband for when he went in to supply his supporting documents was for his original exam certificate...wouldnt have accepted the application without it...
 

kerry30

Active Member
#12
My hubby took his test in February and gets his results online on the 4th April. The British Council told him when he took his test that they no longer send the results to the Embassy, you have to take them yourself. He emailed the Embassy to check and they confirmed, they also told him you need the certificate to apply for the visa. They wont accept the printed confirmation from the internet.
So how do we get the certificate if they don't provide us with one?
 

xtonicx

Active Member
#13
The certificate will be kept at the British Council. Your husband will have to go and pick it up. A friend of mine took his test in July 2011 and his certificate was still at the British Council when he thought it was already at the Embassy, lucky for him my husband told him.
 

DanniBibo

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#14
My Husband did the IELTS one but he also went to British Council once results were up online and they issued his certificate with his photo etc on it :) Im sure they do that for KET too x
 

MellieC

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#15
Hi Jennifer, I fly out on the 25th hoping to get an appointment at the embassy on the 30th, I'v hired an immigration specialist to help me with everything and he will be doing the online application for me and sorting the embassy appointment out for me. When are you submitting?
so why are you asking the questions here if you have a "specialist"? have they not gone through this with you?

you are paying someone who isn't explaining things to you?:confused:
 

kerry30

Active Member
#16
so why are you asking the questions here if you have a "specialist"? have they not gone through this with you?

you are paying someone who isn't explaining things to you?:confused:
I knew i would get asked this and he is explaining things to me. No harm in asking people with experience is there?
 

MellieC

Well-Known Member
#17
so you don't trust him or hes not explaining enough :D:D
 

kerry30

Active Member
#18
Lol im just doing everything i can to make sure we get a yes as im sure you know how nerve wracking it can be :}
 

Jennifer_1987

Active Member
#19
Hoping to do the online app two weeks before I come, I fly out the 29th, we are going to the British Council first prior to the embassy to collect the certificate, not got any hired help just going to take it slowly ensure I input everthing correctly and have the supporting info to go with it xx
 

FoxyRoxie89

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#20
Sounds similar to my experience.....first thing they asked my husband for when he went in to supply his supporting documents was for his original exam certificate...wouldnt have accepted the application without it...
Yours applied just after mine?

Hubs was at Embassy.
 
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