Adopting a Little Tunisian

ROULLA

Registered User
#61
Got it quicker than i thought. Google translate will help even though it won't be a perfect translation.

From the album: Untitled Album
By ‎Afandina () أفـنـديـنـا‎
اليوم إطلعت على أمر أدمى قلبي و جعلني في هم و غم و لا حول و لا قوة إلى بالله:
في قسم الولدان الجدد في مستشفى فرحات حشاد بمدينة سوسة يقبع قرابة العشرون رضيعا تخلت عنهم أمهاتهم بعد ولادتهم...

أطفال تتراوح أعمارهم بين اليوم و العشرة أشهر يعانون من سوء المعاملة الناتج عن عدموجود إطار خاص يعتني بهم حيث تقوم أحد الممرضات بالعناية بهم خارج أوقات عملها و يعانون البرد و سوء التغذية و عدم إنتظام الوجبة و عدم تأقلمها مع أعمار و متطلباتهم و الأوساخ نظرا لعدم توفر الثياب و الحفاظات بالأحجام المناسبة و لعدم توفر أدوات و مواد التنظيف (تصوروا أن الممرضة لا تجد غير قطعة قماش لتنظيفهم و تنشيفهم) و هو ما سبب لهم إلتهابات حادة و أمراض زادت في معاناتهم الجسدية دون الحديث عن المعاناة و الإضطرابات النفسية التي يعانونها نتيجة فقدان الحنان و الطف في المعاملة حيث تمر الشهور على هؤولاء الرضع دون أن تسمع أو تشاهد حتى الإبتسامة الخفيفة ترتسم على وجوهم...

إخواني و دون الدخول كثيرا في التفاصيل الجانبية و دون البحث كثيرا عن صاحب المسئولية و عن الأسباب العميقة... أدعوا أهل البر و الإحسان أصحاب القلوب الرقيقةو الجمعيات الخيرية و حتى الأحزاب السياسية... إلى التوجه إلى هذا المستشفى و إلى بقية المستشفيات الجامعية لأخذ بعض الثياب لبث بعض الدفء في بأجسادهم و حليب الأطفال و الحفاظات و كل ما يستطيعون فعله و جمعه لبث بعض الدفء و الحنان فيهم و لكم من الله الجزاء الجزيل.

كما أدعوكم و أدعوا الصفحات الصديقة و حتى الغير صديقة إلى تعميم هذه المعلومة و ذلك أضعف الإيمان فالدال على الخير كفاعله و الله ولي التوفيق.


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The day I looked at was the bloodiest in my heart and made me and they do not cloud and about and do not force God to :
In the new section in the neonatal Hached Hospital in Sousse sits nearly twenty babies abandoned by their mothers after birth ...

Children aged between today and ten months suffering from ill-treatment resulting from Admugod special window cared where one of the nurses take care of their off- work and suffer the cold , malnutrition, irregular diet and lack of adaptability to the age and requirements and dirt due to the lack of clothing and diapers appropriate sizes and the lack of tools and cleaning materials ( Imagine that the nurse can not find non- cloth Tnzifam and Tnchevhm ) and is what caused them severe infections and diseases have increased in their suffering physical without talking about the suffering and mental disorders that they suffer as a result of the loss of affection and gentler treatment in the months pass , where the infant without Húla to hear or even see a smile light Tertsm on their faces ...

Brothers and without going too much into detail side and without searching for the owner of a lot of responsibility and the deeper causes of ... I hope to the people of righteousness and charity owners hearts Alriqikho charities and even political parties ... To go to this hospital and to the rest of the university hospitals to take some clothes infuse some warmth in their bodies and baby milk and diapers and all they can do and collected infuse some warmth and tenderness in them and you from the penalty thanks God .

It also invite you and invite thread -friendly and non- friendly even to circulate this information and that is the weakest of faith on Valdal good as actors and God is the best.
 

rabah

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#62
Hi Roulla, I hope you don't mind me posting the translation of the Arabic text listed above. Google didn't quite capture the meaning quite the way it should.

What I saw today broke my heart, saddened and worried me. God almighty give me strength. In the maternity ward at the Farhat Hached Hospital in Sousse are some 20 new born babies abandoned by their mothers.
Children ranging in age between 1 day and 10 months suffer from poor treatment in the absence of a dedicated staff to care for them. Beyond her duty hours, a nurse cares for them. The children suffer from the cold, malnutrition, irregular meal hours and a poor diet that does not meet their requirements. They are dirty and lack clothing and appropriate size diapers, they lack tools and cleaning materials. Imagine the nurse finds nothing but a piece of cloth to wash and wipe them with causing them severe infections and diseases that add to their physical sufferings. This is on top of the mental sufferings in the absence of affection and kind treatment. Months go by and you don't hear or see a smile light up the children's faces.
Brothers (people) and without delving into too much detail or searching for whose responsibility this is or the deep reasons for it... I call on the righteous, the kind-hearted, the charities and even the political parties to visit this hospital and the rest of university hospticals and to bring clothing to warm the children's bodies, baby formula, diapers and anything you can do or collect to bring about warmth and tenderness and may God reward your good deeds.
I also invite you and invite the friendly as well as the unfriendly media to spread this information wide and that's the weakest of faith (religious expression to mean the minimum u can do). Those who spread the news about doing good are rewarded no less than those who do good and God is the arbiter of success.
 

Jane BM

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#63
Such a heartbreaking article....
 

ROULLA

Registered User
#64
Hi Roulla, I hope you don't mind me posting the translation of the Arabic text listed above. Google didn't quite capture the meaning quite the way it should.

What I saw today broke my heart, saddened and worried me. God almighty give me strength. In the maternity ward at the Farhat Hached Hospital in Sousse are some 20 new born babies abandoned by their mothers.
Children ranging in age between 1 day and 10 months suffer from poor treatment in the absence of a dedicated staff to care for them. Beyond her duty hours, a nurse cares for them. The children suffer from the cold, malnutrition, irregular meal hours and a poor diet that does not meet their requirements. They are dirty and lack clothing and appropriate size diapers, they lack tools and cleaning materials. Imagine the nurse finds nothing but a piece of cloth to wash and wipe them with causing them severe infections and diseases that add to their physical sufferings. This is on top of the mental sufferings in the absence of affection and kind treatment. Months go by and you don't hear or see a smile light up the children's faces.
Brothers (people) and without delving into too much detail or searching for whose responsibility this is or the deep reasons for it... I call on the righteous, the kind-hearted, the charities and even the political parties to visit this hospital and the rest of university hospticals and to bring clothing to warm the children's bodies, baby formula, diapers and anything you can do or collect to bring about warmth and tenderness and may God reward your good deeds.
I also invite you and invite the friendly as well as the unfriendly media to spread this information wide and that's the weakest of faith (religious expression to mean the minimum u can do). Those who spread the news about doing good are rewarded no less than those who do good and God is the arbiter of success.
There is nothing that you can do to upset me, as far as I am concerned you are always helpful, thank you Rabah:)
 

Donna Said

Well-Known Member
#65
We've been thinking of adoption too, but seems too much of a hassle over there.
Hi Miss Metal, just wanted to share my experience with you on adoption in Tunisia, my husband and I were accepted as adoptees in Tunisia in December 2013 I believe we were only three weeks away from finalising the documents but unfortunately due to my illness we had to leave the country, I was heart broken we even had the nursery all decorated and ready. My husband is Tunisian and I am British, I did not find the process difficult, we went to the Adoption Bureau in Tunis and were given a list of documents we had to produce, bank statements, P60, one months wage slips, marriage certificate, birth certificates, and CRB check for both of us, my husband needed CRB check from Tunis and the UK, we were in constant contact with the local social worker she came to visit our home to check suitability, we had a couple of interviews with a psychologist and another interview with the Adoption bureau and then it was a matter of waiting for the OK in all it nearly took 8 months. You have to decide if you want to go down the Kafala route (this allows adults to take care of abandoned minors in accordance with Islamic law) you become a guardianship of the child, the child retains their original family name you would have to get the courts permission to take the child out of the country even for a holiday or full adoption, and the social worker would continue her monthly visits, the other option is full adoption which involves the courts we did not go down this route so I am not sure how long this would take, we visited the babies that were available for adoption many times they just melt your heart, beautiful babies. Age wise a women needs to be under 50 years and the husband under 45.
Our religion was not an objection I am Catholic whilst my husband is Muslim, the child being born a Muslim would always remain a Muslim.
 

missmetal

Well-Known Member
#66
Hi Miss Metal, just wanted to share my experience with you on adoption in Tunisia, my husband and I were accepted as adoptees in Tunisia in December 2013 I believe we were only three weeks away from finalising the documents but unfortunately due to my illness we had to leave the country, I was heart broken we even had the nursery all decorated and ready. My husband is Tunisian and I am British, I did not find the process difficult, we went to the Adoption Bureau in Tunis and were given a list of documents we had to produce, bank statements, P60, one months wage slips, marriage certificate, birth certificates, and CRB check for both of us, my husband needed CRB check from Tunis and the UK, we were in constant contact with the local social worker she came to visit our home to check suitability, we had a couple of interviews with a psychologist and another interview with the Adoption bureau and then it was a matter of waiting for the OK in all it nearly took 8 months. You have to decide if you want to go down the Kafala route (this allows adults to take care of abandoned minors in accordance with Islamic law) you become a guardianship of the child, the child retains their original family name you would have to get the courts permission to take the child out of the country even for a holiday or full adoption, and the social worker would continue her monthly visits, the other option is full adoption which involves the courts we did not go down this route so I am not sure how long this would take, we visited the babies that were available for adoption many times they just melt your heart, beautiful babies. Age wise a women needs to be under 50 years and the husband under 45.
Our religion was not an objection I am Catholic whilst my husband is Muslim, the child being born a Muslim would always remain a Muslim.
Thanks for sharing Donna. I sure hope you get another chance x
 

ROULLA

Registered User
#67
Hi Miss Metal, just wanted to share my experience with you on adoption in Tunisia, my husband and I were accepted as adoptees in Tunisia in December 2013 I believe we were only three weeks away from finalising the documents but unfortunately due to my illness we had to leave the country, I was heart broken we even had the nursery all decorated and ready. My husband is Tunisian and I am British, I did not find the process difficult, we went to the Adoption Bureau in Tunis and were given a list of documents we had to produce, bank statements, P60, one months wage slips, marriage certificate, birth certificates, and CRB check for both of us, my husband needed CRB check from Tunis and the UK, we were in constant contact with the local social worker she came to visit our home to check suitability, we had a couple of interviews with a psychologist and another interview with the Adoption bureau and then it was a matter of waiting for the OK in all it nearly took 8 months. You have to decide if you want to go down the Kafala route (this allows adults to take care of abandoned minors in accordance with Islamic law) you become a guardianship of the child, the child retains their original family name you would have to get the courts permission to take the child out of the country even for a holiday or full adoption, and the social worker would continue her monthly visits, the other option is full adoption which involves the courts we did not go down this route so I am not sure how long this would take, we visited the babies that were available for adoption many times they just melt your heart, beautiful babies. Age wise a women needs to be under 50 years and the husband under 45.
Our religion was not an objection I am Catholic whilst my husband is Muslim, the child being born a Muslim would always remain a Muslim.
Hi Donna, I am so sorry to hear that you are ill,I do hope that you are feeling better and you are able to continue with the adoption.
Good luck and please let all know how everything went.
Take care
 

Donna Said

Well-Known Member
#68
Hi Donna, I am so sorry to hear that you are ill,I do hope that you are feeling better and you are able to continue with the adoption.
Good luck and please let all know how everything went.
Take care
Thanks Roulla for you kind words, my illness is more serious now so will never happen but we did have the dream.
 

Aslemma

Well-Known Member
#69
When we start out with our hopes and dreams we never know what life will have in store for us. We just have to play the cards we've been dealt. and some people are an absolute inspiration in the way they handle the blows which come their way. :)
 

Jane BM

Well-Known Member
#70
When we start out with our hopes and dreams we never know what life will have in store for us. We just have to play the cards we've been dealt. and some people are an absolute inspiration in the way they handle the blows which come their way. :)
Here here Aslemma. Xx
 

ROULLA

Registered User
#71
Thanks Roulla for you kind words, my illness is more serious now so will never happen but we did have the dream.
I am deeply sorry to hear that your illness is more serious than you thought, I wish you all the strength on getting better and you never know what the future holds. In challah you get better and all your dreams come true because it's nice people like you who deserve happiness.
Take care x
 

Donna Said

Well-Known Member
#72
I am deeply sorry to hear that your illness is more serious than you thought, I wish you all the strength on getting better and you never know what the future holds. In challah you get better and all your dreams come true because it's nice people like you who deserve happiness.
Take care x
Ah bless you and thank you Roulla you are so kind, I remain positive and thank full every day and it's all in Gods hands, hugs to you/
 
#73
But if u want to adopt a tunisian child and bring the child to another country? Any one know about that rules?
 

ROULLA

Registered User
#74
But if u want to adopt a tunisian child and bring the child to another country? Any one know about that rules?
Good morning and welcome to the forum!
I really don't know the answer to your question but I would have presumed that you would have to stay in Tunisia for a while when you have adopted as surely the social workers would need to visit the child in its new home on a regular basis to make sure that the child is happy.
Unless the child's parent's were dead then I would have also presumed that they would prefer the child to stay in Tunisia.
This is what I think, knowing how strict the law can be on certain issues.
Good luck anyway.
 

Donna Said

Well-Known Member
#75
But if u want to adopt a tunisian child and bring the child to another country? Any one know about that rules?
It can be done but I know it would probably take awhile longer because it takes longer for the courts to sort paperwork out, I think you would have to start with a social worker from the country you plan to take the child too.
 

gem15

Well-Known Member
#76
Have friends who adopted a little gel from Tunis 6 years ago and she is Austrian and he is Tunisian. The little girl was actually entitled to an Austrian passport. It's a long process but it can be done.
 

ROULLA

Registered User
#77
Have friends who adopted a little gel from Tunis 6 years ago and she is Austrian and he is Tunisian. The little girl was actually entitled to an Austrian passport. It's a long process but it can be done.
Hi Gem, hope that you and your family are all well !
So does the child live in Austria now then ?
 

gem15

Well-Known Member
#78
Hi Gem, hope that you and your family are all well !
So does the child live in Austria now then ?
Hi Roulla, we're good thanks. Hope you guys are too.

No she doesn't live there but visit a couple of times a year. I did ask if living there would be a problem and apparently not.
 

alison

Active Member
#79
I think that adoption in any country is a long process, however in Tunisia it is very difficult, you are not allowed to take the child out of the country for a number of years and as adoption is not allowed in the Muslim religion it complicates things, especially if you are not a Tunisian national.
 

gem15

Well-Known Member
#80
I think that adoption in any country is a long process, however in Tunisia it is very difficult, you are not allowed to take the child out of the country for a number of years and as adoption is not allowed in the Muslim religion it complicates things, especially if you are not a Tunisian national.
My friend took her little girl at 6 months and soon applied for the Austrian passport and she had her 1st trip abroad just after a year old.

The little girl still has the name of her real father, the Tunisian law states they cannot change their surname.
 
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